31 May 2025

Where Everybody Knows Your Name



  

I'm not a huge fan of network television. Except for the nightly news, our TV's always off unless I'm watching a DVD or streaming a movie, which I admit does happen a lot. But in the old days, when network shows were all we had, I sat there pop-eyed and hypnotized almost every night, mostly watching cowboys or cops, but some comedies, too.

Most of the sitcoms were bad. Badly written and badly acted, although I didn't know it then, and if I did know it, I probably didn't care. I watched 'em anyway, unless I was reading. Now, in hindsight, I wish I'd only been reading.

But a few of the sitcoms were good, years ago, and I now realize they were good because they were well written. A couple of the best were The Bob Newhart Show and The Mary Tyler Moore Show, which I think I remember aired back-to-back on Saturday nights, back in the mid-'70s. What struck me about those two was they weren't just entertaining, they were funny--laugh-out-loud, slap-yo-mama funny sometimes, and yes, part of it was because of the great characters (some of them I'll remember forever). But mostly it was because of the writing. Not just the jokes, but the whole thing, and the dialog was sharp and cool and witty.

The TV version of M*A*S*H was another example. I had already seen the movie and loved it, so when I watched the TV pilot it was with low expectations--but I was pleasantly surprised. Certainly more folks today will remember Hawkeye Pierce as Alan Alda than as Donald Sutherland, right? (Funny story, though, about the movie version: I was a green 2nd lieutenant in the Air Force when the movie came out, and it arrived at one of our two base theaters at the very same time that Patton arrived at the other theater. At first, most of us flocked to see Patton, mostly at the urging of our superior officers. But after the first night, the word got around, and for the rest of that week EVERYone was packing in to see M*A*S*H while the other theater, showing Patton, was almost empty. The base commander was not pleased and told us so, which of course secretly pleased us even more--my little group found Hot Lips Houlihan a lot more interesting than George S. Patton. Ah, those good old days of military service . . .)

Sorry--back to the main point. Around that time and in the years shortly afterward, several other good sitcoms came along as well--All in the Family, WKRP, Taxi, etc., and a little gem no one remembers called Wings. And, much later, Friends, The Simpsons, and Seinfeld. But my all-time favorite TV comedy series was, and always will be, Cheers. Even back then, I had noticed that the very best shows had a well-planned setting--MTM had a TV newsroom, Bob Newhart a psychiatrist's office, M*A*S*H a mobile army hospital--but Cheers had maybe the most promising location of all: a friendly neighborhood bar. That setting ensured that all kinds of crazy characters would be coming in and going out all the time, and with its absolutely top-notch cast, this show couldn't go wrong. I loved it from the get-go. Even after the series had been running awhile, every decision the producers made seemed to turn out right. Who would've thought the beloved character Coach, when he passed away, could ever be replaced?--but Woody turned out to be just as appealing a bartender, if not more so. And I wound up liking Rebecca as much as I liked Diane. Is it any surprise that the Frasier spinoff was funny and successful as well?

My fond memories of Cheers were the reason I felt such sadness a few days ago, when I heard of the passing of George Wendt, who played the lovable Norm Peterson in all 275 episodes of the series. I saw an old interview of him the other day, in which he was asked why his character was so popular. Part of his answer was something like: "I just said the lines the writers gave me to say." Again, the fine writing was a giant part of Cheers's lasting success. Anyone who thinks we fiction writers can't learn something from shows like that--well, they're fooling themselves. If you pay attention, you'll easily see the brilliance there. The timing, the delivery, the way every line of the script deepens the characters and delights the viewer and keeps things moving.

Maybe it's me, but I just don't see that kind of thing often anymore, in our current TV offerings. Even the camera work doesn't seem as professional. Some of the shows are good, sure, but many, many are not.

What are your thoughts, on this? Do you watch much network TV, and specifically the sitcoms? Did you watch them in the past? What were your favorites, back then? Have you now given up on them, like me? Do you agree that the writing is worse, in recent years, for that kind of programming? Has our collective sense of humor changed? All observations are welcome!

Meanwhile, I think I'll go find a YouTube episode of Cheers to cheer me up. As an example, here's an exchange I saw the other day:


Coach: "What's shakin', Norm?"

Norm: "All four cheeks and a couple of chins."


God, I loved that show.


36 comments:

  1. Your column is even more timely, John, because Loretta Swit died today. She was wonderful in M*A*S*H. The one scene that stands out in my mind is the episode in which she shot her foot locker, claiming it was shot in the line of duty, protecting her--the only way the army would give her a new one. Her delivery in the exceptionally written episode was wonderful.

    As for recent comedies, I loved The Big Bang Theory and both its spinoffs. The newest one, Georgie & Mandy's First Marriage, just finished its first season, and after an iffy start, it has found its footing.

    I loved many of the shows you mentioned, including Wings. You may know mystery author Ellen Byron. She used to be part of their writing team.

    Finally, while they are not comedies, ABC's Tuesday night lineup of police procedurals-- Will Trent, The Rookie, and High Potential--all have a lot of humor baked in.

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    1. Yep, that was spooky, Barb, to hear that M*A*S*H news just after finishing this post. Loretta S. was such a huge part of that show, and stood up so many times, back then, for women in wartime. So many great scenes. And thanks about the info about Ellen. I did NOT know she was one of the writers there.

      I forgot about Big Bang Theory. Another one of those shows where the crazy characters will always be remembered! Good memories made this post fun to write.

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  2. I too loved those shows. My husband used to watch some of the shows from the 1950s, and I asked him once what he liked about them. He said, simply, they have a beginning, a middle, and an end. So I watched a few with him. He loved especially Fawlty Towers, which never wasted a single word. Amazing. We've lost a lot in our current crop of TV shows, which I don't watch anyway.

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    1. Whoa, Susan, tell your hubby I forgot Fawlty Towers, and my wife and I also watched Keeping Up Appearances for several years--Judi Dench never made a bad performance, in anything. There were so many good ones over the years, and I'm afraid I ignored many of them in this post. And yes, I think the current crop is withering.

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  3. Your system would not accept my new Tertulia website: www.jimguigliauthor.com
    I don't watch any current network comedies or crime shows. I do watch some Frazier reruns on the Hallmark and Cozy channels. Many episodes of Frazier are near unwatchable, but in the good ones the writing and timing and delivery are so good I watch them again and again.
    Jim Guigli

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    1. Jim, I'm afraid our Blogger system sometimes leaves much to be desired--sorry that didn't work and thank you for trying. As mentioned, I too do not watch any of the current network shows, and I agree that Frazier, though it had its ups and downs, was sometimes terrific. I suspect the writers were the same or very similar (and learned from) those on Cheers.

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  4. Dale Andrews31 May, 2025 10:30

    Remember the year that Sam sold the bar and bought a sail boat in the last episode? The first episode of the next year he is back at the bar, having wrecked the sailboat, which he ran aground at a deserted island. And, as Sam explained, they named the island after him - "No Sense Atoll."

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    1. Hey Dale! Long time no hear from. YES, I remember Sam's sailboat, and I remember that I loved the island's name. It was that kind of writing (the kind I wish I could do) that made that show what it was. FYI, I re-watched the very last episode, the series finale, again after doing this column, and I think it was fitting that the last words were his, addressed to a customer tapping on the locked door after hours. Sam just waved and said, "Sorry. We're closed."

      I said to my wife last night, when I saw Ted Danson doing a commercial during the news, that he would always always be Sam Malone, to me.

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  5. Oh, John, that is my lament today. Nothing comes close to the sitcoms of the 70s! Loved Newhart, Mash, Mary Tyler Moore. in 1993, my comedy agent told me sitcoms were geared to a grade 8 male audience now, and boy, that doesn't seem to have changed. So I watch mainly Brit, when it comes to comedy. Miranda - if you can get it - follows the Fawlty Towers tradition, by the way. Somewhat mad.

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    1. Melodie, as I've told you before, I think we must be long-lost kinfolks. And I bet your agent was right, about the age-level. (Have you ever seen the movie Idiocracy? We're getting there, and fast.)

      I think the Brits have always been good with humor--TV and movies too. What's wrong with mad?

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  6. I agree with you on the writing, John, and the best shows had well-developed characters who could grow with the series (or spin-offs).

    To add to your list, Barney Miller was one of my favorite shows back then. I watch the Turkey Drop episode of WKRP around Thanksgiving. Both shows had great characters, and I still see and hear them when I close my eyes. "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

    Now, the canned laughter on lines that aren't funny drives me away. If I'm watching television at all, it's probably the WNBA, or, during the college season, the UConn women. My wife is an alumna.

    And I'm reading even more than I used to, which isn't a bad thing.

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    1. You've read my mind again, Steve. Yes, Barney Miller is one I should've listed when recalling some of the good ones. And--seriously--I rewatched the Turkey Drop episode of WKRP on YouTube several months ago.

      Coincidence: My sister, who was a basketball star in school, watches the UConn ladies ANYtime they happen to be playing on TV.

      Keep reading, my friend! That's a VERY good thing.

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  7. Great article, John. The wife and I bought The Bob Newhart Show a few years back, and it's still a ton of fun and laughs, from Bob's dry wit to the charming cluelessness of Howard. If you want to try something more recent, go with "Parks & Recreation." The first season (may only be 6 episodes) is so-so, but by Season 2 it is all systems go. Parks & Rec is powered by an immensely stacked cast and, of course, terrific writing. Who would think to have a show where the lead is an almost hopeless optimist, then introduce a character in Season 2 who is (somehow) even MORE optimistic? Brilliant!

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    1. Ah, good old Howard Borden. In Cheers terms, he was the Woody of The Bob Newhart Show. I've always loved Bob Newhart, even aside from the show--during my IBM days, he would often entertain at some of our awards banquets.

      You know, Dan, I have never watched Parks & Recreation (!), though I'm familiar with most of the cast and have heard good things about it--same thing about 3rd Rock. Interesting, that the second season of P&R is better than the first!

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  8. So…I’m in the generation where many of the shows you mentioned aired on Nick at Nite back in the late 90s. My mom was more than happy to revisit these shows with me—the Mary Tyler Moore show was one of her favorites because she really connected with the character, who she has many similarities to at the time the show originally aired. We also loved Taxi and The Jeffersons. Watching these shows, along with others like The Dick Van Dyke Show, Get Smart, and Mork and Mindy helped me to understand why she felt like that era was the Golden Age of great sitcoms…they were so well written and the characters were superbly developed and portrayed. I grew to love them a lot, too! In my case, I grew up with the “family” sitcoms in the 90s like Family Matters, Full House, Boy Meets World, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, etc. before moving on to some of the last really great ones like Everybody Loved Raymond, Frasier, and Everybody Hates Chris. I never got into Friends and I never really understood Seinfeld (but my mom, who did grad school in NYC, totally “understood” the humor!).
    Now my kids are old enough to enjoy old episodes of Raymond and Frasier with me….

    Ashley Bernier

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    1. Hi Ashley! Tell your mom I think many of our news anchors these days are much like Ted Baxter, brainwise. (She'll understand!) I too loved loved MTM, and even its spinoffs. And oh Lord I can't believe I forgot Raymond (everybody did indeed love him) and Mork & Mindy too. Like you, I somehow never got into Friends--but I was crazy about Seinfeld (though it was a far different "kind" of humor). Lots and lots of good memories, reading these comments. Thank you as always!

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  9. And geez, big fingers on a tiny screen…I mean “Everybody LoveS Raymond” and that my mom “had” many similarities to Mary’s character on MTM!

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    1. I never even saw the typos. Please don't look too closely for them in my replies . . .

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  10. RIP Norm and Hot Lips. Loved those old shows, still do.
    I was a fan of Star Trek: The Next Generation, and every week my friend Pete and I would discuss that weeks episode. Then came Seinfeld. Every week I would discuss that episode with my coworker Gary. Then came The Big Bang Theory. Every week I would discuss it with my friend Mary.
    Now, nothing. There are no shows that I watch regularly. Oh-- the good ole days of TV.

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    1. RIP indeed. I honestly can't think of one single sitcom on TV now, that I have any interest in watching, though I started to try to get into the new one with Tim Allen--but didn't. To me, he won me over with Galaxy Quest (yes, it was a feature film, not TV, but God I loved that movie).

      Hey, there'll always be reruns and YouTube videos of the old stuff.

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  11. John, I adored Wings, which was one of the first shows I watched when I started paying attention to TV (very belatedly, while my son was away at college). Thomas Haden Church, Tim Daly, Crystal Bernard, and Steven Weber were terrific in it, and it was my introduction to Tony Shalhoub, who's great in everything. Wit aplenty for sophisticated laughs, but it had physical comedy too. I still crack up when I remember Joe and Helen's wedding, with Joe having his hand stuck in a toilet as they said their vows. The other show that made me laugh out loud repeatedly in the same era was Roseanne. As you say, ah, the good ole days, before things got so complicated.

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    1. Liz, I was serious, almost nobody I know remembers Wings. And it ran for a long time--seven or eight seasons, in the '90s. The thing is, it was created by the same folks who created Cheers, and of course Frasier (I can never remember if Frasier's spelled with s or a z, because of the pronunciation), so I think that's one of the reasons it was so well done. I need to find some old episodes of that, or just break down and buy the DVDs.

      For some reason I never got into Roseanne--and, no offense, I think I'll keep it that way.

      Thank you as always! (Hope to see you at Bouchercon.)

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    2. YES—Wings was a great one, too!!! —Ashley Bernier

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  12. I loved Newhart (in both sitcoms), MASH, Fawlty Towers, Frasier (David Hyde Pierce as Niles was PRICELESS, and I'm so glad they never actually showed Mavis, but left her as someone everyone talked about), and a bunch of British sitcoms - As Time Goes By, Fawlty Towers, Last of the Summer Wine, etc. There were so many. Now so few...

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    1. Yes, Eve, BOTH Newharts. I didn't mention the one set in Vermont. You know, I'd forgotten about Mavis, in Frasier, but yes, she never made an appearance--same thing with Norm's wife (Vera?) in Cheers. But they were still characters!

      I never saw Last of the Summer Wine. Should I investigate that?

      Thank you as usual, for stopping in, here!

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  13. One sitcom you forgot to mention was Roseanne, its early years were a realistic portrayal of a working class family. Being raised by a single mother working four part time jobs to pay her way through college, I can relate. Ditto for Grace Under Fire. In fact; Mom, a recent Chuck Lorre sitcom, takes this even further by showing what recovering alcoholics struggle with to become better people -- and with humor.

    I barely watch TV anymore; except for a couple of Bosch reruns per night on Amazon Prime/Freeview. Speaking of Taxi, I never thought they got enough credit in how they developed characters. Each settled for a day job as a cab driver to pay the bills yet each of them had dreams of a better life. While Alex Rieger was the divorced middle aged cabbie estranged from his daughter and gave up on life, the others wanted much more.

    Elaine Nardo was the divorced single mother working full time at an art gallery, Season 1 character John Burns was a college student studying for a degree in forestry. You also had Tony Banta's dreams of being a boxer as well as Bobby Wheeler's desire to become an actor. Immigrant Latka Gravas moving to America and working as the garage mechanic. Reverend Jim Ignatowski trying to get his life together after being a 60s era hippie burnout. And of course, there was the vile dispatcher Louie DePalma keeping them all down, if not keeping them real in a few cases.

    These are examples of what character based writing should be. If only I wrote like that.

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    1. Hey Justin! Roseanne was mentioned in the comments, but, as I told Liz, I'm no expert on that one (as if I'm an expert on any of them). I did like John Goodman, though, and still do, in almost any project he undertakes.

      But I do agree with you on Taxi--sounds like you loved that series as much as I did. And the characters there, once again, were people who seemed so real we'll remember them forever. And consider how many of the Taxi actors went on to successful careers afterward! All of you in the comments have certainly given me a lot of ideas about revisiting these old series.

      Thanks, Justin, for the thoughts! Stay in touch.

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  14. Elizabeth Dearborn31 May, 2025 16:16

    I missed a lot of TV shows because I worked the evening shift, 3:00 to 11:00, for years. But I did watch Wings & loved it. Another show with an unseen character was the great Designing Women, featuring Suzanne's housekeeper Consuela, who seemed to have magical powers that allowed Suzanne to win in Atlantic City. My daughter & I used to watch M*A*S*H, which she called "the copter show". Loretta Swit, "Hot Lips" Houlihan, was from Buffalo & always came back here for the Easter parade, etc. Sad to realize she has left us.

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    1. That IS sad, Elizabeth. It sounds silly, but when these actors pass, the ones you've watched for many years, there's a true feeling of loss even though you rarely ever meet them in person. They've brought you enjoyment, and you'll always remember them for it.

      Designing Women is another series I liked a lot, and that I totally forgot about when I was writing this. I should get together with my trusted advisors before I tackle this stuff. Thanks for mentioning this one. As for M*A*S*H, there were apparently a lot of us who loved that show--I heard someplace that the series finale, when everybody left Korea and flew home, remains the one most-watched broadcast in TV history.

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  15. You've brought back memories with MASH. When my husband was a 2nd LT in the AF, at Shaw Field in Sumter SC, before they got sent overseas, we would party with the other 2nd Louies and spouses a lot, but no matter what we were doing, the TV went on when it was time for MASH and everyone gathered around and watched.

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    1. Kaye, it was the same with us. That show struck a chord with all of us in the military. I think I'd made captain by the time the show really got popular, the same rank as Hawkeye, Trapper, etc., and several of us, officers and enlisted folks alike, watched it faithfully. Some of the things they did onscreen, and some of the things they made fun of, too, had a deeper meaning for us.

      Especially interesting was that these funny characters on the show, besides serving in the military, were medical people, saving lives every day. As an older man, many years after M*A*S*H and most of his acting career had ended, Alan Alda once said in an interview that he'd recently had a serious, life-threatening intestinal obstruction. After being taken to an ER, he said the doc told him the surgery would involve taking out the "bad" part of his intestine and sewing the two "good" ends together. Alda said, "You mean an end-to-end anastomosis?" The doc said, "How'd you know that?" And Alda said, "I've done a lot those."

      Great memories!

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  16. As you say, it was (and sometimes still is) about the quality of the writing, and the use of words - plus a lot of excellent 1960s and 1970s comedy started life being written by writers who had also worked in Radio.
    Also, sometimes things do not transfer well (either way across the big spit - example UK version of Golden Girls being a notable failure. Miranda in the US incarnation) - but I think a lot of that has to do with cultural familiarity as well. If I see a credit for Chuck Lorre, then I'll take a look (though at the moment he seems short of cash going by the amount of Big Bang spin-offs at the moment.)
    There has also been the rise of the Podcast (modern day Radio?) recently, which I find curious. But, like everything else as well, the amount of pure Internet Noise means you get bored with a surfeit of choices - attention spans are a lot shorter (a bit like the old writing advice in regard to sentence length and eBook reader attention spans - shorter keeps them engaged, etc.)
    For me, the test is always the Spaghetti one - If you throw it against the wall and it sticks, then it's good to go :) Likewise, I cannot stand Brook's Spaceballs except for two lines - one delivered by the late, underrated, John Candy: "I'm Barf. I'm a Mog. Half man, half dog - I'm my own best friend."
    Mind you, Brooks never topped Blazing Saddles IM-no-so-HO...

    John Connor
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    1. Hi John. Thanks for the thoughts. I agree with you about having radio experience, the occasional problems with cross-pond transfers, the fact that podcasts are modern-day radio, and short attention spans.

      We also seem to think alike on Mel Brooks's best and worst: I share your not-so HO of Blazing Saddles. I bet I've watched that movie a dozen times, and can only imagine how much fun Brooks must've had filming it. (Hard to believe that was just over fifty years ago!)

      We Sayers of Sleuth always appreciate it when you stop in!

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  17. I enjoyed Ted Danson’s latest show - I think it’s on Netflix, “Man on the Inside” - I also liked That Seventies Show

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  18. I remember how watching episodes of Taxi always felt like entering another dimension. It was often hilarious, but everything seemed so unique and stylized, from Bob James's haunting, melancholy theme to the incredible ensemble cast. I can only guess that movies and television series of that caliber can only evolve organically, that writers learn to tailor content for the gifted actors they write for, the way Duke Ellington and Billy Strayhorn would tailor arrangements and solo breaks for their band members.

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