Ever met anybody famous?
I suspect you have. Most of us, I think, have experienced--or know folks who have experienced--unique contacts with "well-known" people. Examples: When one of my writer friends was a child, his babysitter was Sharon Tate. (Seriously.) Another writer friend once did a major-movie love scene with Clint Eastwood. My former literary agent talked Robert Bloch into writing Psycho. My father's best friend flew missions with pilot Gene Autry in World War II. And so on and so on. I myself have sat next to several of my favorite movie actors on commercial flights during my IBM years, and pestered a few of them all the way to baggage claim.
Another memory is of a night when my vacationing family and I were eating dinner in my dad's brother's seaside restaurant in Pensacola, Florida. I was twelve years old, and because it was my sister's fifth birthday, my uncle (who had no children) secretly arranged for all the cooks and waiters to march out with a cake and sing "Happy Birthday" to her. As it turned out, two of the cast of the then-hit TV show Gunsmoke--Amanda Blake and Milburn Stone--were among the diners that night, and afterward the two of them came over to our table, wished my sister a happy birthday, and sat and visited with us for half an hour. This was long, long ago, but such a thing was unusual even then, and I still remember being thrilled.
My favorite story, though, of a chance meeting with a famous person came from one of the students in my writing classes.
Here's the background . . .
The student in question, the late Nick Adams, lived in Mendenhall, Mississippi, about half an hour south of Millsaps College in Jackson, where for many years I taught two night courses on writing and selling short stories. Nick was a good writer and an all-around good guy, and I grew to know him well. We worked together on a number of his stories, and he honestly enjoyed the process of writing--he wrote both fiction and poetry.
The funny thing is, he never said anything, during all our weeks of classes, about the story I'm about to tell you. He revealed it to me only afterward, at a dinner held to celebrate the end of our two courses. (Celebrate is the correct word; my students were probably glad to be rid of me.)
. . . and here's the story:
In the early spring of 1959 Nick Adams was a freshman at Del Mar Junior College in Corpus Christi, Texas. He was a student reporter for the school newspaper, The Foghorn, and his family owned a restaurant in a Corpus hotel called The Sand and Sea Resort, on the Gulf of Mexico. After classes Nick waited tables, washed dishes, made room-service deliveries, mopped the floors, and did whatever needed doing at both the restaurant and the hotel.
One day that year he looked up from his duties and saw, standing there in the hotel lobby . . . Ernest Hemingway. The author was there with his wife Mary and his old friend and fellow author A.E. Hotchner. An avid reader, Nick recognized Hemingway immediately. Since Nick was in the vicinity, the desk clerk asked him to take the three guests's luggage up to their rooms, and Nick--in a quick whisper--asked the clerk if she realized who these people were. She said no--she'd never heard of them.
Nick took the bags up, they tipped him well, and he rushed back to the restaurant to tell his mother what had happened. She listened as Nick blurted out his story, then said, "Go call him. Now."
"What?"
"You're studying journalism, right? You write for the school paper. Call him on the phone and ask him if you can do an interview."
Nick realized that made sense. He beat feet back to the hotel lobby, phoned Hemingway's room from the front desk, and--trying to keep his voice from shaking--made the request. He did not, however, reveal his name. He was afraid that if he mentioned his name they would think he was pulling some kind of hoax, or making a joke. (As a longtime fan, he was familiar with all the Nick Adams short stories Hemingway had published, mostly in the 1920s and '30s.) To his amazement, he was told by the wife, "Sure. Come on up."
Mary Hemingway welcomed Nick into the room just as her husband was stepping out of the shower. He smiled and shook Nick's hand as he stood there naked and dripping, and in fact continued to stand there chatting until his wife fetched him a bathrobe. Then they sat together at a table, and for the next twenty minutes Nick asked questions and scribbled the replies in a notebook he'd brought along. Hemingway was gracious and helpful throughout the interview. When it was over, he asked Nick not to let anyone from the local media know he was there until after he'd left the next day, and Nick agreed to keep the secret.
The following morning the three travelers had breakfast at the family restaurant before leaving. Nick was away and in class, but his mother introduced herself to Hemingway, and he asked her what her son's name was so he could leave a card. When she told him Nick Adams, Hemingway was both surprised and pleased. The note he left said, "To Nick Adams, who will make a good reporter."
Some years later, Hotchner wrote a book called Papa Hemingway, and the Sand and Sea incident is recorded there. He got some of it wrong--I've read the book and found the account--but the essentials are there, right down to Hemingway's reaction to finding out the boy's name.
Again, Nick never mentioned this during our many references to Hemingway's writings during the classes--he told me about it only at the final dinner, when all of us were sitting around talking about old times. And maybe the funniest thing of all is that Nick Adams (the real one, not the character) never became a reporter. He became a successful businessman instead.
And a part-time writer. I still have a signed book of his poetry. Is that wild, or what?
NOTE: Last week I googled the hotel for the first time, and found this, among other info: In March 1959, renowned author Ernest Hemingway was interviewed at the Sand and Sea Resort Hotel by a college journalism student.
My question for today is, have you ever met, either accidentally or intentionally, a famous writer--or, for that matter, a famous politician, actor, musician, etc? Was it a normal meeting, or unusual in some way? If it was an author, did that at all inspire or influence your writing? Did the meeting result in any fictional versions of it?
Before closing, I'll share one more story of my own. I once ran into the American pop singer Billy Joe Royal, just before one of his college concerts in the late 1960s. (Yes, I know--you younger folks won't remember him.) Anyhow, he and his group were turning a corner going one way and I was walking the other way, and I ran into him, literally--Royal was a short guy and I'm not--and knocked him flat on his back right there in the hallway outside the ballroom of the Student Union. His entourage went nuts, but I apologized and helped him to his feet and all was well. I still think about that every time I hear an old recording of "Down in the Boondocks."
Hopefully your celebrity encounters went better than that one.
Whatever it is or was that inspires you, find or remember it and keep writing! See you in two weeks.
Nice. Another excellent column.
ReplyDeleteThank you, O'Neil--always good to hear from you. Hope all's well with you and yours.
DeleteDecades ago, I worked for Sam's Club here. I was on the door when Dany White, starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys, came in. I fanboyed a little bit. He was rude, condescending, and pretty much an entitled jerk. Not to just me, but everybody he encountered that day.
ReplyDeleteLooking back on it now, decades later, I understand why he was the way he was. He just wanted to go about his day and nobody, including an awestruck me, allowed that. It was back before the insane amount of money hit the sport so he did not have a pack of security around him and his family. He was just trying to do his thing with the family and wanted to be left alone.
Kevin, I'm sure that happens a lot, did then and does now, but I like to think most celebrities would at least be friendly. Hey, why shouldn't I think that?--I live in a fantasy world anyway. I do wonder, though, whether famous athletes might tend to be more rude than other celebrities.
DeleteIn my public TV days, I met dozens of them. James Michener and Ken Burns stand out. Twice I interviewed a writer most of you have probably never heard of, Dr. Frank Slaughter, author of
ReplyDelete"Doctor;s Wives," among others. All above were gracious and thoughtful,
What a great experience. I'm sure those two DO stand out. And it's good to hear that all were kind.
DeleteThanks for stopping in, here.
I know Billy Joe Royal covered Joe South's song Hush, made famous by Deep Purple. In person, I've met and gotten autographs from Star Trek actors Walter Koenig and Denise Crosby as well as several professional wrestlers and talked to a few of them on the phone. An older regional wrestler was friends with my aunt for many years I also corresponded with he a nd his widow online. I corresponded with bestselling author Thom Racina and he sent me a copy of his novel Deadly Game, offered me feedback on my writing, and he wrote for daytime soaps, such as General Hospital and Days of Our Lives. I corresponded woth a few who sent me books.And have spoken many entertainment figures online.
ReplyDeleteYep, I didn't consider online talks with famous folks. Zoom makes that more possible than in the past.
DeleteThanks, Justin!
Great story. I met a few...
ReplyDeleteI met the last two Democratic nominees for President from Massachusetts, Dukakis lived on the street behind mine, so I'd see him around, especially when he was scrubbing graffiti from mailboxes, have short, friendly conversations with him. I met Kerry before he won the noimination. I thought I was going to make a lot of money from a startup I was at (Lucent bought us, but their damn stock tanked before the lock-up period ended), and before Lucent stock tanked, my wife and I went to a ridiculously expensive resort in Arizona. A bunch of TV actors there, but Theresa Heinz and Kerry joined us at breakfast (Thersea did, anyway, Kerry did, begrudgingly). Theresa was very friendly, Kerry was not--while Theresa carried on conversations with us, Kerry tried to pretend we weren't there. I could tell more stories about Kerry, but I won't.
I've met a lot of Hollywood producers (spoke to a pretty big one 2 days ago, keeping my fingers crossed), spoke with Matt Dillion on the phone for an hour when his agent at UTA wanted me to sell him on one of my book projects (I couldn't hook him on Everybody Lies in Hell, but man, he loved the idea of Caretaker of Lorne Field). I met on the set of Small Crimes Nikolay Coster-Waldau (Jamie Lannister, very nice guy), Jackie Weaver (also very nice), and Robert Forster (ditto). Robert had been a favorite of ours since Jackie Brown, my wife who is usually shy about these things, made a beeline to his table of "lunch" (what they call dinner), and for the next hour Robert regaled us with stories. I talked with him a bit on set also, suggested he'd be perfect as Leonard March for my book Killer. A year later I got a call from his girlfriend. He loved the book, acted the whole book out (what I would give for a tape of that). We tried to figure out how we could geta film going. He was getting a lot of critical acclaim for a movie that was just out, so the hope was he'd get nominated for an Oscar and that would give us the juice to get this going. It never worked out--he got diagnosed with cancer and died not too long after. Great actor, really nice guy.
I'll tell you my sad Stephen King story. When I had all of 2 short stories published, Fast Lane by tiny Point Blank Press, and that was it, and was trying to get Small Crimes and Outsourced published, I used to take my manuscripts to Kate Mattes, who ran Kate's Mystery Bookstore in Cambridge MA. Kate liked both books, and she had some sort of deal with a guy who was publishing crime novels, but he fortunately didn't want to publish these--fortunately, because not too long after, he went belly up, and one of his authors told me he didn't pay them any of their owed royalties. Anyway, Kate was hosting Tabitha King at her store who had a new book out, and I showed up hoping Stephen King would show up. I also brought along a manuscript of The Caretaker of Lorne Field along to give to Kate. King was his wife, maybe two other people for Tabitha's reading (very friendly, nice woman), and some press people. When I was showing Kate my manuscript, King came over, raising an eyebrow, saying "Ah, manuscript", clearly wanting me to tell him about it. When I started to, Kate stopped me cold, saying "Now David, don't bother Stephen about this."
My Terry Bradshaw story is much worse. We had just flown to Maui. A long flight from Boston. After checking in, we went down to the beach. Terry Bradshaw was there with some people, clowning around. My wife and I seldom have fights, but after that long flight, my wife asks if could do the drive to Hana the next day. This was before the road was paved, and it was 4-5 drive, and being a bit of a prick, I said most likely not too nicely, I'm not driving to Hana. My wife started crying, and for the next half hour or so, Bradshaw kept looking over at me like he wanted to beat the crap out of me. And of course, the next day I drove us to Hana.
I love these stories, Dave! (I figured you'd have some good ones.) I've been a Robert Forster fan since Nakia, back in the '70s I think, and I loved him in everything. I'm not surprised to hear he was a good guy. I talked with Stephen King for a few minutes at an Edgar banquet years ago (he later won in his category and I lost in mine), and he was appropriately friendly. Earlier, Doug Allyn's wife Eve tried to talk King into having his picture made with her and Doug and my wife and me, and he politely declined.
DeleteI bet you DID get a lot of exposure to famous folks because of the Small Crimes project--I know that must've been fun. And I love the Bradshaw story. Many thanks!
I have a picture of myself with Harlan Coben's arm around me! I've met a few famous musicians, going backstage for autographs with I was younger. Classical violinists, not rock stars.
ReplyDeleteKaye, the few times I've chatted with Harlan Coben (at Bouchercons in Baltimore and New Orleans), I really really liked the guy. (No hug, though.) As for the musicians, I am impressed!! I'm sad to say, I would probably recognize the names of the rock stars but not the classical violinists.
DeleteI just remembered something: Raquel Welch once gave me a smile and asked me whether I liked the color of a scarf she was about to buy at a sidewalk shop in San Francisco. It was just a kind, casual remark to an awestruck tourist--I remember babbling a reply, but it probably didn't make any sense.
How famous? Do members of our own tribe count? The first time I met Lee Child, on the stoop outside the late lamented Black Orchid Bookstore in New York, I asked him who he was. Since then, I've met him at many mystery events, kissed him on the cheek (standing on tiptoes—he's as tall as you, John), and shared a taxi from the Mysterious Bookshop to the Upper West Side with him (he paid). There's a lovely pic of me with Mary Higgins Clark on my Facebook page, and she once told me how much she got as an advance on her first novel in 1932: $3,000, about what a newbie is lucky to get today. In general, I learned at my mother's knee not to become a fan but to make friends when I met someone remarkable. In her 90s, my mom struck up a friendship with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who initially invited her to lunch when she wrote billing herself as "the oldest living lawyer."
ReplyDeleteHey Liz -- Hell yeah, I think there are plenty of famous writers (yourself included) in our tribe!
DeleteThat's a good MHClark story, and also the one about your mom and Justice Ginsburg. As for Lee Child, I too have found him to always be kind and open to all of us. Glad to hear you let him pay for that taxi, by the way!
Wow, wow, wow! Hemingway! It doesn't get much better than that, does it? And I love your families other two and three degree of separation stories, too.
ReplyDeleteI've met many crime/mystery writers at events, and they've all been friendly and encouraging, too. My best second-degree meet stems from my wife's having a small role in the Hartford Stage Company's world premiere of the stage version of Rear Window with Kevin Bacon, who was gracious and down-to-earth, too. (Interestingly, my wife also had a one-second appearance in the remake of the same film, with Christopher Reeve, who was also charming).
One of my high school classmates became a session keyboard player in Detroit, and she knew (and may have played with) Dick Wagner, Alice Cooper, Ted Nugent, and Bob Seger. In fact, her escort at the reunion was Seger's former drummer. She told me that all except Nugent were very nice people, too.
Steve, I've always suspected that your (and your wife's) long association with the stage has put you in contact with some big names in the acting/writing world, over the years. I love hearing about your wife's experiences with Bacon, and of course Christopher Reeve. Finding out that both of them were gracious and charming fits perfectly with how I imagined they would be!
DeleteYou must be sure to remember all these adventures for your memoirs!
John, Christopher Reeve's father was an English professor at Wesleyan where I did my graduate studies. He was a guest lecturer in a writing workshop I attended one summer and he was both brilliant and hilarious. He seldom taught in the summer when I took most of my classes because I was teaching high school, too.
DeleteWhat an experience I bet that was! Thanks, Steve.
DeleteIn 1970 I attended a party at the home of a professor at Goucher College & Allen Ginsberg was there! Also, in the 1990s, I was visiting the Jersey Shore, doing a little grocery shopping, & Leslie Nielsen ("The Naked Gun") was in line ahead of me. He didn't introduce himself but I recognized him. We took turns bitching about how slow the cashier was.
ReplyDeleteLooks like you've been around celebrities for a loooong time, Elizabeth! Love the shopping-line Leslie Nielsen story.
DeleteHe played so many serious roles (I think he was the ship's captain in The Poseidon Adventure), it was for a while hard for me to accept him in comedy roles like those in Airplane! and The Naked Gun. But he was so good, he won me over.
Thanks for the stories, John. I have two celebrity-meeting stories to share. When I was editor of Music Educators Journal, published by the Music Educators National Conference, the association's board awarded its distinguished artists award to Leonard Bernstein. The board and staff members like myself went to Bernstein's office in Manhattan. He met us at the receptonist's desk and accepted the award there. I took photos of the board and Bernstein for the magazine, he accepted the award, and then turned to the receptionist and handed it to her, saying, "Place this in the closet with the rest of my honors--if there's room."
ReplyDeleteThe other is I was sitting on a Manhattan to D.C. plane when I recognized the man sitting in front of me was the actor Robert Prosky. He was well known as an actor at the Arena Stage in D.C., was rehearsing a show in New York, and was in the cast of "Hill Street Blues," which filmed in LA. When he rose to stretch his legs, I stood and said, "Mr.Prosky, I just wanted to say that I have admired your performances very much." He just glared at me and walked on. Later, when we landed, he got up to get his bag out of the overhead and couldn't get it down. Given his rudeness to me, I had no great desire to help him, but he was blocking my way off the plane. I got up and helped him get it down. As we were doing that, he barked, "This is some life I'm leading! Flying from D.C. to Manhattan, coming back home on weekends, then flying to Los Angeles for three days of filming, then BACK to New York. Some life!" Having obtained his bag, he stormed off. I guess he was actually respond to my praise of his performances by letting me know exactly how much they took out of him and cost him.