It seems that I get a lot of my ideas for SleuthSayers posts from what I see on my TV--and that's what happened with today's column.
My inspiration: The other night I watched, for probably the 20th time, A Fistful of Dollars, the Clint Eastwood movie from the mid-'60s that launched the Spaghetti-Western subgenre. And I was reminded, for maybe the 10th time, of two other films, Yojimbo and Last Man Standing (neither of them Westerns), that had almost exactly the same plot: A mysterious stranger arrives in town and pits each of two rival groups against the other for personal gain. And these three similar movies even feature similar ways that the protagonist accomplishes his goal. They're so much alike that if you're familiar with any one of them, it'd be impossible to see either of the others without immediately thinking of the first.
Legally, how can that happen?
Well, that's a simple question with a long, complicated answer that I don't want to go into. (Because I would quickly get into matters over my head. I will say, though, that I believe the Yojimbo folks successfully sued the Italian director of A Fistful of Dollars and eventually received a settlement--but Fistful was so incredibly successful, financially and otherwise, it hardy mattered.) What I do want to go into are a few thoughts about how many stories, novels, and movies ARE retellings of other stories. And that we as writers can re-tell stories ourselves, if we're careful and follow the rules. (All of us know what plagiarism is, and nobody wants that. What I didn't know, until I looked it up, is that it's derived from the work plagiarius, which means kidnapper. Which makes sense.)
Here's the deal. Basically, we can copy ideas, concepts, titles, structural frameworks, and tropes but cannot copy specific character names and traits, quotes, exact sequences of events, etc. We would also need to be cautious about things like pacing, exact settings, character motivations, and the overall "feel" of a story. I'm no lawyer and I'm certainly oversimplifying, but a lot of this boils down to common sense. For example, I could write a story about a young girl on a farm who finds herself transported into a fantasy world with magical creatures and then comes back home with a headful of helpful life experiences, but I couldn't name her Dorothy and have her help a scarecrow and lion and tin man fulfill their wishes and fight with witches.
To my knowledge I have never in any of my stories "copied" the plot of another story (maybe because my plots, like me, are sometimes a little weird). A couple of years ago, though, I did write a story featuring a private eye who, in the course of investigating a wife suspected of infidelity, wound up in the middle of a conflict involving a wrong phone number. I'd once heard a joke about that kind of misunderstanding, and I had that plot detail on my mind throughout the writing of this story--but the story itself was far different in terms of characters, setting, mood, and the theme of the idea that inspired it. The joke didn't even feature a PI, and mine wasn't even the protagonist.
Having said all that, here are several examples of movies--again, I'm using movies because many of us have seen them--that are highly similar to each other:
High Noon (1952) and Outland (1980) -- High Noon is the classic Western with marshal Gary Cooper and new wife Grace Kelly counting down the minutes until the arrival of three killers on the noon train; Outland--an entertaining movie, I thought--stars Sean Connery as a marshal on one of the moons of Jupiter preparing to fight three hitmen who are on their way to his location via shuttle, to kill him.
Battle Royale (2000) and The Hunger Games (2006) -- Battle Royale is a Japanese film about teenaged students being chosen and forced by the government to fight to the death; the plot of The Hunger Games is pretty much the same, except that the story is set in a different location and a different time (the first movie takes place in the near future and the second in the distant future).
Yojimbo (1961), A Fistful of Dollars (1964), and Last Man Standing (1995) -- As mentioned, the basic plot is the same for all three, but Yojimbo is a Japanese adventure film starring Toshiro Mifune, A Fistful of Dollars is an Italian-made Eastwood Western directed by Sergio Leone, and Last Man Standing featured Bruce Willis and Christopher Walken in Prohibition-era Texas.
Shane (1953) and Pale Rider (1985) -- Shane is another American classic, with stranger Alan Ladd helping homesteaders Van Heflin and Jean Arthur fend off a cattle baron and his hired gun Jack Palance; Pale Rider features Clint Eastwood helping a group of independent prospectors defend themselves against an Old West mining company. Pale Rider is like Shane in an amazing number of ways, which I realized about halfway through the movie.
The Seven Samurai (1954) and The Magnificent Seven (1960) -- The Seven Samurai, again starring Toshiro Mifune, is about a village of Japanese farmers who hire seven samurai to help them keep a group of bandits from stealing their crops. The Magnificent Seven, with Yul Brynner and Steve McQueen, is about a village of Mexican farmers who hire seven gunfighters to help them keep a group of bandits from stealing their crops.
Rio Bravo (1959) and El Dorado (1966) -- Rio Bravo is a Western about a Texas marshal who arrests the brother of a local rancher for murder and then has to fight off the rancher's men until the judge arrives. El Dorado is an almost-remake about a gunfighter who helps a sheriff defend a rancher's family against another rancher. The plots are extremely similar, John Wayne stars in both, Howard Hawks directs both, drunk Dean Martin in the first movie becomes drunk Robert Mitchum in the second, third sidekick Ricky Nelson (nicknamed Colorado) becomes third sidekick James Caan (nicknamed Mississippi), etc., etc.
Dances with Wolves (1990), The Last Samurai (2003), and Avatar (2009) -- Dances with Wolves stars Kevin Costner as a soldier who meets, befriends, and lives with a group of Lakota Sioux in the post-Civil War West; The Last Samurai forces American cavalry officer Tom Cruise into the same kind of situation in the 19th-centry Japanese samurai culture; and Avatar has human Sam Worthington infiltrating and befriending a humanoid tribe on a moon of Pandora in the 22nd century.
Some other movies that are loosely based on previous films/novels/stories but that don't venture as close as those I've mentioned are Air Force One, Passenger 57, Under Siege, and Under Siege 2: Dark Territory. These are all part of an unnamed sub-subgenre that began with Die Hard and feature an often reluctant hero who has to stand alone against a group of terrorists in an enclosed space like a building, ship, train, or airplane. These movies are just more proof that a certain amount of copying is allowed if you don't overstep the boundaries--or at least don't take giant steps. And there's also another way to do it: The surprisingly delightful movie Ever After, with Drew Barrymore, is an obvious ripoff of the Cinderella story, but it takes a direct and open approach by making its title Ever After: A Cinderella Story.
There are of course many more films out there that are copies or have been copied--The Lion King, Clueless, Bridget Jones's Diary, The Lord of the Rings, Cruel Intentions, Downsizing, Easy A, Freaky Friday, Yellow Sky, Romeo and Juliet, The Little Mermaid, Barb Wire, Trading Places, The Island of Doctor Moreau, The Wolf Man, The Nutty Professor, The Most Dangerous Game, and so on.
So, how about you? Have you--those of you who are writers--based any of your stories or novels on stories, novels, or movies that you've read or watched? How closely do they resemble those previous stories/plots? Are you regularly inspired by previous works? Have you used them to create retellings, homages, or pastiches? If you've written a great many different stories, and if you--like me--try to keep learning from what you've seen or read in others' works, how do you keep from including/repeating some of those things in your own work?
If you do re-tell a story, be careful. I think I'll stick to new and original.
See you next week.
John, another fun list but you might want to point out that Rio Bravo and El Dorado were both written by the great Leigh Brackett. Another parallel: The Glass Key and Miller's Crossing.
ReplyDeleteGood one, Rob, never thought about it. I should've: I love Miller's Crossing.
DeleteAnd you're right about the two westerns--written by the same guy. I guess the choice of whether to do a copy depends on how successful the original was--and Rio Bravo remains one of the most famous westerns.
I absolutely LOVE Miller's Crossing (a rare movie I can rewatch... especially the "Danny Boy" scene) and dislike both book and movie versions of Glass Key; go figure. But I think I gotcha on the other one! When Hawks was preparing to direct The Big Sleep he read a mystery novel by Leigh Brackett and said "Get me that Brackett guy" for a scriptwriter. So he was surprised to find out she wasn't a guy. Instead she became one of the first big name female scriptwriters, responsible for hit mysteries, westerns, and science fiction.
DeleteMiller's Crossing is one of my favorite movies--but it's actually a mix of Hammett's Glass Key and Red Harvest. And if we stick with the Coen Brothers, there's also Big Lebowski and The Big Sleep, O Brother Where Art Thou and The Odessey.
DeleteTo Anonymous--yes, you did get me!! I know the name Leigh Brackett, but sure didn't know she was female! Learn something every day--thank you! As for Miller's Crossing, both Rob and I also love that movie, and talk about it often. (Everybody seems to remember the Danny Boy scene!) I in fact love several of the Coen Brothers's movies.
DeleteTo Dave Z--Yes, I had heard the same thing about Miller's Crossing and Glass Key and Red Harvest. And I believe the similarity between O Brother and The Odyssey has been pointed out a lot, but I had NOT thought about The Big Lebowski and The Big Sleep. Interesting! (Lebowski's one of my favorite movies.)
DeleteWhoops, Anonymous talking about "Danny Boy" was me, Rob.
DeleteYou sly dog.
DeleteA timely column, John! In my latest novel, The Pharaoh's Curse Murders, I gave homage to a short story from over 100 years ago. However, rather than copy the plot, in Pharaoh's Curse, I actually mention the short story, and the protagonist and killer discuss how it relates to the situation they are in! So not shadowing the plot so much as perhaps lending credence to the motive. (boy it was hard to write this without giving the away the ending!)
ReplyDeleteI bet it was! Sounds interesting, Mel, and also sounds like it was fun to write.
DeleteAs for copying plots, yes, that's done--but it's dangerous. I too have done what I guess you'd call homages, but like you, I've tried to be careful to mention the story and things about it so it's obvious I'm not trying to copy someone else's story. I suspect the way you've done it is the best of all worlds.
Thanks as always!
Hi John, Interesting post, and I've watched Fistful of Dollars over and over again, too. Regarding Yojimbo, Fistful of Dollars and Last Man Standing - they're all based on Hammett's novel Red Harvest, and short story Corkscrew. The Bruce Willis film adhering closest to the sources. Although The Last Samurai bears some similarity to Dances With Wolves, I don't think the filmmakers were thinking of Dances With Wolves at all. Perhaps Lord Jim had more influence on that story - more exile than fish out of water.
ReplyDeleteHey David! Thanks for that. I should've mentioned Red Harvest, but I didn't know about "Corkscrew"--I've gotta check it out! As for Last Samurai, you're correct--I just remember watching it, and the way Cruise is accepted into the group, etc., and thinking Whoa, this sure reminds me of John Dunbar and the way he practically becomes one of the tribe. What I didn't think of was Lord Jim, but by golly you're right!
DeleteI still remember your telling me (in Raleigh, I think, long ago) about writing all those MacGyver episodes, and wondering how in the world you managed to make all of them so satisfying and still different from each other. I still love that series!
My latest science fiction story is a reimagining of Jack London's To Build a Fire. It's set in a mining colony in the Asteroid Belt.
ReplyDeleteI liked that London story, Mike, so I bet I'd like your latest. Outer space instead of the Far North!
DeleteI wish you luck with the story--and thanks for stopping in.
It's published. The editor noticed that the antagonist in both stories was "the cold of space."
DeleteGood work!
DeleteJohn, do you make a distinction between movies that are meant to resemble each others and those that are kind of pretending they don't? I always assumed that The Magnificent Seven was simply the American version of The Seven Samurai. Not my thing, as you know, but two movies my husband loves. And Clueless is a deliberate spoof on Jane Austen's Emma. That's what makes it clever and so much fun. In my own work? Hell, no. I'm a reinvent the wheel girl every time. It may not be the best wheel, ever, but it's my wheel. I even write a new bio every time I sell a story.
ReplyDeleteNo, I didn't make a distinction, but it's an interesting difference. I would suspect that anyone who saw both The Magnificent Seven and The Seven Samurai would immediately see the similarity, and the same goes with several other copies I mentioned--so I doubt the writer, director, etc., of the Magnificent Seven were pretending they didn't know. And I'm glad you mentioned Clueless and Emma--yes, Clueless was a spoof/retelling, and it worked well.
DeleteLike you, I almost always go original, with the stories. Bio-wise, one of course hopes the bio will change for the better often enough that one *needs* to write a new bio each time!
John, the "Anonymous" above was me. I don't know why Blogger didn't identify me, just noticed when I checked back in to see your reply.
DeleteHey Liz! I probably should've recognized you by your mention of Clueless and Emma! As for copying other stories in your own work, I don't want you to. I probably like your stories and novels because they ARE originals. Who else could've invented that fantastic Mendoza family??
DeleteI remember when Francis Ford Coppola released "Apocalypse Now" that he mentioned the influence of Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness." He later lamented that he had said this because the film was subsequently labeled an adaptation of Conrad's book and criticized as a poor one. He claimed that, except for both works being about a journey for someone named Kurtz, they were different in setting, dialogue, theme, and plot details.
ReplyDeleteInteresting, John. I of course knew about the connection between the book and the movie, but I didn't know about the criticism of the movie as being a poor adaptation.
DeleteI can't say I loved the movie, but it's one of those that made so many lasting impressions on me, I'll always remember it--much more than I'll remember reading Conrad's book. But that's just me.
Great stuff, John! I'm a big fan of both High Noon and Outland. Years ago, someone claimed that Outland had the shortest pitch ever before getting funded: "It's High Noon in Space." And cha-CHING, the movie gets produced. I'm surprised it hasn't been remade in other genres like horror. And when it is, I'm sure I'll watch it.
ReplyDeleteDan, I guess the whole idea of one scared guy standing alone against an overwhelming number of bad guys IS one that will draw viewers. Like you, I greatly enjoyed both movies. As for the longline, yes, that was a good one, and accurate. I'm reminded that the movie Under Siege was once billed as Die Hard on a battleship. Sums it up pretty well.
DeleteWriters have to keep their influences subtle or learn to cloak it in a different genre altogether. With some of my recent writing, I noticed subconcious and subtle influences from The Silence of The Lambs and Hannibal Lecter series, without the serial killer or cannibalistic aspects. Another character's backstory took subtle inspiration from such stories as Stephen King's Thinner and Body Heat without any supernatural or salacious aspects. And more deliberately, the midpoint switch in a sci-fi story was loosely inspired by the shower scene in Psycho, but it has nothing to do with a nude woman being stabbed in the shower.
ReplyDeleteWithout realizing it, subtle and subconscious plagiarism probably happens with all writers and filmmakers at any given time. Anyone writing nonviolent/nonsexual story yet still revolving around a private eye is, to a small extent, is crabbing from Agatha Christie, Dashiell Hammett, and Raymond Chandler.
Well said, Justin. I suspect almost anyone who writes a midstory plot twist thinks at least a bit about that shower scene. And I like your note about cloaking a story in a different genre. A previous comment mentioned High Noon in Space, Die Hard on a battleship, etc. There are, after all, only so many plots in the world.
DeleteThanks as always for your thoughts.
Have you seen Short Mystery today? Someone posted a review of a feminist take on Psycho (novel, not movie) in which the heroine survives the shower and has a lot more going on.
DeleteI saw that, Liz. It's probably good, but I seriously wonder if Psycho would be Psycho if the lady thief didn't get stabbed in the shower . . .
DeleteMany years ago my wife and I were watching an episode of Miami Vice when I sat up suddenly and said, "Oh my gosh. It's High Noon!" I only remembered that it had a almost identical plot and purported to exist in "real time." So after reading your blog I looked it up. "The Afternoon Plane," Season 3 episode 17! I think it might have even used the device of the clock ticking, but not sure. We watched it a loooong time ago.
ReplyDeleteHey, the good stories (or episodes) are hard to forget!
DeleteAn interesting thing I've heard about High Noon: The movie played in something very close to real time. What I mean is, the film ran for around an hour and a half, and I think the marshal found out around 10:40 a.m. that the outlaws were coming on the noon train.
Yes. And the episode of Miami Vice used a similar device.
DeleteMaybe we could find that episode on YouTube . . .
DeleteI always had fun making my students in my History of Japan classes watch either Yojimbo and High Plains Drifter or Seven Samurai and The Magnificent Seven. "So, how much do we owe Japanese samurai movies for modern Westerns?" A lot...
ReplyDeleteWe sure do, Eve--that occurred to me during the writing of this post. We even owe a lot to Japanese samurai movies that starred Toshiro Mifune! (I of course had no idea that either Western had that kind of history when I first saw them--I saw Magnificent 7 in high school and Fistful in college. I do remember, though, that I love 'em both!)
DeleteThere was an episode of Star Trek Deep Space Nine in which at some point the viewer realizes, "Oh, it's Casablanca." The ending is practically shot-for-shot. Slightly off topic, but I just read City on Fire by Don Winslow. Great novel about two rival gangs in Rhodes Island. I was maybe 1/4 through it for I said "My gosh, it's the Trojan War!"
ReplyDeleteRob, you remind me of a memorable one-liner from a cousin's teenage daughter, evidently growing up illiterate in Seattle. We were talking about Troy, with Brad Pitt as Achilles, and she said, "Have you read the book?"
DeleteWonderful. This reminds me of another story. A friend works in our terrific local bookstore and when the latest Great Gatsby movie was premiering a customer came in wanting a t-shirt with the cover of the book to wear to the movie. They sold her one and she said "I went to Barnes and Noble first but the clerk there had never heard of the book." Shop local.
DeleteWhoops, Anon was me again. Rob
DeleteTo Rob and Liz -- I heard the other day that a teenaged guy talking with someone about old movies stopped the conversation and asked, "Wait a minute. Who's Steve McQueen?" The other guy said, "He's the Brad Pitt of your grandparents' generation." And the teenager said, "Who's Brad Pitt?" How soon they are forgotten . . .
DeleteI expected him to say "Steve McQueen? Didn't he direct Twelve Years a Slave?" Which he did, but a different Steve McQueen.
DeleteAargh, this was Rob again.
DeleteHa! You're right, Rob, lots more folks these days seem to know McQueen the director than McQueen the actor.
DeleteI was sitting in the theater watching "Airplane!" during its initial run (I went to see it twice!) and in the middle of laughing at that first viewing I said to myself: "My gosh, I've seen this plot before--the food poisoning on the plane, the troubled war veteran pilot among the passengers, the doctor on board..." Yes, "Airplane!" was a shot-for-shot (sometimes) remake of "Zero Hour." An early airline-in-peril movie written by onetime pilot Arthur Hailey. Which was itself remade from a Canadian TV movie Hailey wrote that was adapted into a couple of other films. Oh, and it starred James Doohan who (like Hailey) had been a pilot during WWII. I know what you're going to say to me: "Surely you can't be serious?"
ReplyDeleteJeff, DON'T call me Shirley!
DeleteLooks like I picked the wrong week to quit quoting movies..."
DeleteJeff, I didn't know "Airport, the novel" Hailey had written any movies. Now I gotta go try to find Zero Hour.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, don't call Eve Shirley.
"Zero Hour" is still available, and still a classic. It MAY be on You Tube, but there IS a video comparing scenes in the two movies.
DeleteBy the way, James Doohan only did the Canadian TV movie "Flight Into Danger," which was the basis for all of them and is, alas, lost.
DeleteJeff -- Thanks so much for pointing me to Zero Hour, on YouTube. I plan to watch it tonight.
DeleteSeveral people beat me to the punch here to mention Red Harvest. Whenever I've taught Red Harvest (every two or three years) I always end up talking about samurai and cowboys and screen clips from Yojimbo and Fistful of Dollars and... so much to dig into here!
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed the post—thanks so much!
Art, I swear, I think you have one of the most pleasant jobs in the world, teaching that kind of thing. I'd love to be in one of your classes!
DeleteI gotta go back and re-read Red Harvest. Best to you and family.