tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post5850256481351683245..comments2024-03-29T04:38:14.302-04:00Comments on SleuthSayers: Deja Vu All Over AgainLeigh Lundinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-87796383781998919672015-12-18T00:32:35.738-05:002015-12-18T00:32:35.738-05:00It's deja vu all over again makes me want to v...It's deja vu all over again makes me want to violently attack the person that said it. I know Yogi Berra said it originally,but that's fine, he said a ton of redundant things as jokes. It's the idiots who think that is how to correctly say that you have experienced deja vu that make me see red. Surprisingly, most on the list never bothered me, I'm sure they will now. I'll notice them everytime now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273580123915263111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-80858115462713473192012-05-06T21:16:08.384-04:002012-05-06T21:16:08.384-04:00Wayne, believe me, you don't want to start dra...Wayne, believe me, you don't want to start drawing any grammar conclusions based on the wording of our Mississippi statutes.<br /><br />As for the instructor you mentioned, I bet he'd be so pleased to know he's being used as an example! That would do a lot for his self-confidence in himself.John Floydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001712728130488485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-77259074128039555742012-05-06T15:10:55.398-04:002012-05-06T15:10:55.398-04:00John, if I remember correctly, "false pretens...John, if I remember correctly, "false pretense" is a specific crime of fraud in Mississippi. So the redundancy is made acceptable by statute.<br /><br />I remember an incident from years ago in which an employee at my workplace was sent to a seminar on how to be successful. When he was asked what he learned, he stated that the primary element to assure success is to have "self-confidence in yourself." I always wondered if that was the way the seminar instructor phrased it.Wayne Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13895800069675596259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-66103074724485701212012-04-28T22:55:36.190-04:002012-04-28T22:55:36.190-04:00I forgot to add: "This program was brought to...I forgot to add: "This program was brought to you by the Department of Redndancy Department, which brought you this program."<br /><br />As I recall, when the Supreme Court had to rule about some cases involving the Civil War they argued that a "more perfect union" was harder to break up than a regularly perfect union, and this was an argument for interpreting the law as if the states had never left. Part of the legal principle that every word in a law means something. IANAL...Robert Loprestihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08844889305615182897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-54334830790878765102012-04-28T19:50:07.293-04:002012-04-28T19:50:07.293-04:00Herschel, your comments are now posted--sorry for ...Herschel, your comments are now posted--sorry for the delay. They somehow got routed to a spam folder, heaven knows why. I and the other sayers of sleuth have been wrestling with our comment system for some time now. I apologize.<br /><br />Dale, I did indeed enjoy <i>Calico Joe</i>. It does what the best fiction usually does: it entertains while teaching a life lesson (in this case, forgiveness).John Floydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001712728130488485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-11883680639593316472012-04-28T19:18:31.482-04:002012-04-28T19:18:31.482-04:00Yogi Berra once said that the Yankees lost the Wor...Yogi Berra once said that the Yankees lost the World Series because they made too many wrong mistakes.<br /><br />In an earlier comment which was not posted I wondered about the wording of the preamble to the Constitution about creating a "more perfect" union. Not a redundancy, of course. What would one call it?Herschel Cozinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06097703750150309319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-27220500329774115302012-04-28T17:23:49.896-04:002012-04-28T17:23:49.896-04:00For years whenever my mother or I would come acros...For years whenever my mother or I would come across one of these the finder would turn to the other and say "an unnecessarily repetitious redundancy." The other would nod sagely and say "Yeah, reiterated over and over with the same meaning but with different words." <br /><br />I really miss my mother!<br /><br />On a different subject, Calico Joe was a nice little read, wasn't it?Dale Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10553503281187956955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-52030744580590633932012-04-28T13:59:49.857-04:002012-04-28T13:59:49.857-04:00One thing that has always puzzled me is the mentio...One thing that has always puzzled me is the mention of a "more perfect" union in the Constitution. Not necessarily a redundancy, but in my mind unachievable.<br /><br />PS: My posts never seem to make it until several hours, (or even days) after I post them. Is there anything that can be done about it?Herschel Cozinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-76778198656057969072012-04-28T13:16:23.500-04:002012-04-28T13:16:23.500-04:00I wouldn't have thought of mutual friends and ...I wouldn't have thought of mutual friends and common friends as examples of this, but you're right, that makes sense. And Louis, I'm afraid my first drafts contain far worse things than mere redundancies. I too wind up doing a lot of rewriting.<br /><br />A close cousin is the cliche, and I'm guilty of using way too many of those, too.John Floydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001712728130488485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-5298365990191875482012-04-28T11:06:10.715-04:002012-04-28T11:06:10.715-04:00One example of when redundancy works is a line fro...One example of when redundancy works is a line from Angela Thirkell's "Growing Up", where two upper-crust people discuss a very lower-crust sergeant as "our common friend".Eve Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03015761600962360110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-27535746488912786442012-04-28T08:58:46.466-04:002012-04-28T08:58:46.466-04:00A professor, or maybe I read it in one of those bo...A professor, or maybe I read it in one of those books on how to write, to write like you speak. So, I often include redundancies, among other incorrect usages, in my first drafts. It forces me to do what I’m sometime reluctant to do, rewrite.Louis A. Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16563842429688123421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-82136234066483572492012-04-28T01:37:21.770-04:002012-04-28T01:37:21.770-04:00How about the Dickens' title OUR MUTUAL FRIEND...How about the Dickens' title OUR MUTUAL FRIEND?<br /><br />a friend of mine (not a mutual one) wrote a song that mentioned a new surprise. REdundant I thought, but changed my mind. I then wrote a song arguing that love is The Same Old Surprise.Robert Loprestihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08844889305615182897noreply@blogger.com