tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post4634985905492585262..comments2024-03-19T05:28:00.356-04:00Comments on SleuthSayers: Twenty Years of B.A.M.S.Leigh Lundinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-8785441280488366482016-12-17T20:58:40.501-05:002016-12-17T20:58:40.501-05:00Bonnie, it was actually fun trying to find all thi...Bonnie, it was actually fun trying to find all this stuff. I have a bunch of the BAMS editions here at home, and I located some of the lists at Amazon using the "Look Inside" feature, but since that wasn't always available I also pestered Art, O'Neil, Paul, James Lincoln Warren, Leigh, Rob, Janice, Eve, David Dean, Liz, Melodie Johnson Howe, and others to try to make sure of all the names.<br /><br />Paul, thanks for your help as well. Here's hoping that the 2017 edition will include even more of us.John Floydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001712728130488485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-37293799592582821402016-12-17T20:45:37.519-05:002016-12-17T20:45:37.519-05:00Pretty impressive. And congratulations to everyone...Pretty impressive. And congratulations to everyone.Paul D. Markshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15466234708772287399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-15316770487397833632016-12-17T20:42:21.433-05:002016-12-17T20:42:21.433-05:00Thanks for compiling all this information, John. I...Thanks for compiling all this information, John. Interesting post! And congratulations to all who have had stories included or mentioned.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17673578800047888317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-39900070493496654362016-12-17T16:36:32.527-05:002016-12-17T16:36:32.527-05:00Just arrived back home from a booksigning about 10...Just arrived back home from a booksigning about 100 miles east of here--sorry not to have responded yet to recent comments.<br /><br />David -- Like you, I wasn't even aware that one of my stories had been honored that way, until years later. They never officially notify those whose stories make the top 50 but aren't chosen for inclusion in the book. But hey, I'll take any little bit of recognition I can get!<br /><br />Eve, I agree--I feel fortunate just to be a part of this group. My goal has been to try to eventually meet all the SSers face-to-face, but I still have a long way to go. Bouchercons have helped, though, in that regard. <br /><br />Thanks, Art. That IS a coincidence. One thing about Lee Child, though--he was as open and friendly as I'd hoped he would be, even though he didn't know me from Adam.<br /><br />Steve, we're just lucky to have you in-here-amongst-us. I've already learned a lot from your posts. And congrats to you, and Rob and Janice also, for those additional honors. <br /><br />Michael, I'm not sure I have enough dedication to try to assemble a list like the one you've described. As a group, I too would imagine SleuthSayers have published more stories in AH and EQ than anyplace else, and maybe the Strand as well. <br /><br />Rob, that's a good theory--I agree! And, like you, I'm always pleased when I happen to appear along with writer friends in certain issues and anthologies.<br /><br />Barb, your honors and awards are many, and will continue to be. We're fortunate to have you in this group.<br /><br />R.T., as I mentioned in response to David's comment, I too bopped along in blissful ignorance of my 2000 appearance in that BAMS list until six or seven years later. And I also discovered long afterward that one of my AHMM stories, "The Blue Wolf," was selected for a similar "honorable-mention" list in <i>The World's Best Mystery and Crime Stories 2</i>, in (I think) 2001. Hey, I was just glad I found out about it at all!<br /><br />Thanks, Melodie! We need to also make a list of Canadian awards!!<br /><br /><br />John Floydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001712728130488485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-50374725655100565872016-12-17T14:05:53.624-05:002016-12-17T14:05:53.624-05:00Just wonderful, how many Sleuthsayers have had sto...Just wonderful, how many Sleuthsayers have had stories selected! Platinum company, we are in. Congrats to all!Melodie Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870938103759179132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-53664090321918881102016-12-17T13:39:18.188-05:002016-12-17T13:39:18.188-05:00Gee, John, until you published your blog article, ...Gee, John, until you published your blog article, I didn't know one of my stories made The Other Distinguished Mysteries list in 2002. That had to be either the second or third story I sold to AHMM, which now explains why Michelle Slung came up to me during an Edgars reception about that time and told me one of my stories almost made it into BAMS. My writing ego floated on that recognition for about a year, but I had no idea the story got listed in the back of the book for 2002 until now.<br /><br />Thanks for digging up all that history.R.T. Lawtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15523486296396710227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-91896362262389828072016-12-17T12:36:18.918-05:002016-12-17T12:36:18.918-05:00Nice post, John. Alas, my stories have not appeare...Nice post, John. Alas, my stories have not appeared among the chosen in BAMS. But it leaves me something to aspire to. Barb Goffmanhttp://www.barbgoffman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-65860417237997158942016-12-17T11:06:48.702-05:002016-12-17T11:06:48.702-05:00A lot of fun, John, and not just because my name a...A lot of fun, John, and not just because my name appears in it. You seem to be missing the obvious reason the membership of SleuthSayers has become more prominent in BAMS in recent years (taking up a full 10 percent of the 50 slots in the last two years.) Clearly it is because the writers joined SleuthSayers, which cast a great light upon them. (Prove I'm wrong.)<br /><br />Michael, as for your theory that we appear because we are in EQMM and AHMM, my "distinguished" story appeared in EQ but my recent appearance in the top 20 was from an anthology called nEvermore! (Exclamation point in the original.)<br /><br />By the way, a few years ago I wrote about which writers I had appered with the most often in magazines. The winner (or victim) was Michael Mallory, who had shared pages with me six times: http://www.sleuthsayers.org/2012/03/stablemates.htmlRobert Loprestihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08844889305615182897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-91793755045182782652016-12-17T10:47:55.694-05:002016-12-17T10:47:55.694-05:00Though you were concentrating on SleuthSayers memb...Though you were concentrating on SleuthSayers members (and one hanger-on), I wonder what a similar list would look like for magazines/editors. Which publications (or which editors, in the case of anthology editors) have been most-often represented?<br /><br />And then, how does that correlate to SleuthSayers members?<br /><br />I suspect the strongest correlation is going to be AHMM or EQMM to SleuthSayers members. That is, SleuthSayers members more often make the final 50 with stories first published in AHMM or EQMM. But that's only a guess. I wonder what the reality is?<br /><br />(FWIW: Three stories from anthologies I edited made the Other Distinguished Mystery Stories list. None made it into the top 20.)<br /><br />Michael Brackenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072019804281421944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-61213382267407163002016-12-17T10:41:46.062-05:002016-12-17T10:41:46.062-05:00This is an intriguing post, John, and an impressiv...This is an intriguing post, John, and an impressive list. I have the current BAMS on my table and read a story or two to unwind from my own writing at the end of the day. This year's collection may be one of the best, and the SleuthSayers contributions top the list. Told my wife I was going to learn a lot when Janice invited me to join the group, and this proves it. <br /><br />For more of your bucket list, Rob and I have both won the Black Orchid Novella Award, and Janice and I were both included in the 2013 MWA anthology Vengeance. My story was nominated for an Edgar, too. I didn't win, but it's hard to feel bad about losing an award to Karin Slaughter. <br /><br />This essay and your previous post on short stories demonstrate that the form is alive and well, which is terrific news.<br /><br />Thanks for another informative post.Steve Liskowhttp://www.steveliskow.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-86950501641145685572016-12-17T10:27:56.051-05:002016-12-17T10:27:56.051-05:00John — Great post, and pleased that you and I have...John — Great post, and pleased that you and I have crossed paths a couple of times in the BAMS pages! Another coincidence: I had almost literally the <i>exact same</i> conversation with Lee Child that year and then the <i>exact same</i> realization soon afterwards. So I was there with you in more ways than one. :-)Art Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02409008167752619352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-22811665214077365492016-12-17T10:02:26.098-05:002016-12-17T10:02:26.098-05:00It's great to be a part of this blog - so many...It's great to be a part of this blog - so many great writers! Eve Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03015761600962360110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-89926534082676229392016-12-17T09:48:34.403-05:002016-12-17T09:48:34.403-05:00Wow, I didn't even know that I had a story mak...Wow, I didn't even know that I had a story make the "Distinguished" list in '14. I guess that it's true that even a blind pig finds an acorn every now and then. Congrats to all my fellow Sleuth Sayers on their BAM contributions! And thanks to you, John, for doing this research.David Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13005457506363262838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-39973124300323934712016-12-17T08:49:20.513-05:002016-12-17T08:49:20.513-05:00Yes, three women editors in the past four years, J...Yes, three women editors in the past four years, Janice. And I think you're right, there'll be more women's stories included in the book also. (Most of the magazine editors I submit to, these days, are female.) Is there a trend here someplace???John Floydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001712728130488485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-18868888951125378672016-12-17T08:29:44.114-05:002016-12-17T08:29:44.114-05:00Another twenty years indeed!
One thing that stood ...Another twenty years indeed!<br />One thing that stood out for me in your list was the welcome increase in women editors just over the last few years. I think you will probably notice an increasing number of women included in the selections as well.janice lawnoreply@blogger.com