tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post1888914000236880592..comments2024-03-28T10:16:38.716-04:00Comments on SleuthSayers: Happy Murder. Happy Murder?Leigh Lundinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-57034877316382791632015-12-01T22:55:36.341-05:002015-12-01T22:55:36.341-05:00This is a great post. I didn't know about disc...This is a great post. I didn't know about discovery I'd but lately I've been watching some real life crime shows docudrama style and they're planting some whacky ideas in my head for stories. <br />Will be checking out discovery I'd now, especially a few of those titles that popped out at me.<br />Lisa Ciarfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11400993023093819050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-8492752044386242352015-12-01T20:39:10.363-05:002015-12-01T20:39:10.363-05:00Barb, I think the way you show how things can esca...Barb, I think the way you show how things can escalate really rings true. Plus people also act out of emotion and then it’s too late. And the other day, I posted a link and pic of that guy who got stuck in the chimney. Your story was prescient. And how cool to have narrated one of those shows. That must have been fun...sort of. :)<br /><br />And Gayle, I know what you mean about the re-enactments and all of that. I think when these shows started they’d just to a limited amount of acting and more interviews or news footage. But now they seem to have turned into full blown productions. And how weird to have one of these shows be about someone you know. Wow. And it is better, of course, when the badguy does go down for the crime.<br /><br />Eve, your line about pushing the right button in the right way and you can get almost anyone to embezzle or rob or even murder, reminds me of a line in a Clash song I’m sorry to say: “I been very tempted, To grab it from the till, I been very hungry, But not enough to kill.” But I guess some people will go to the point of killing. And, of course, some will murder over virtually nothing, like a parking space. And I would imagine that you get your fill of real crime with your volunteer work. That would be enough for me.<br /><br />Thanks, Lisa. Some of those titles are amazing, aren’t they? But I have to warn you, you might become addicted. :)<br />Paul D. Markshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15466234708772287399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-10378671059178414662015-12-01T20:14:46.077-05:002015-12-01T20:14:46.077-05:00This is a great post. I didn't know about disc...This is a great post. I didn't know about discovery I'd but lately I've been watching some real life crime shows docudrama style and they're planting some whacky ideas in my head for stories. <br />Will be checking out discovery I'd now, especially a few of those titles that popped out at me.<br />Lisa Ciarfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11400993023093819050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-88292417812397259292015-12-01T16:47:53.523-05:002015-12-01T16:47:53.523-05:00How far would somebody go? Pretty damned far. Pu...How far would somebody go? Pretty damned far. Push just about anyone on the right button, in the right way, and you could get a murderer, a thief an embezzler, etc. Sexual crimes, not so much - from what I've seen sexual criminals are pretty much born that way. But you can get almost anybody to steal, if they're hungry enough or, as Barb said, if their child needs medicine, and you can get almost anybody to kill if their child is threatened. <br /><br />I don't do much of real crime shows, myself, but then I volunteer down at the pen, and I hear a lot of stories. Eve Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03015761600962360110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-12038954379326636032015-12-01T16:22:12.162-05:002015-12-01T16:22:12.162-05:00True crime shows are a bit weird to me and not for...True crime shows are a bit weird to me and not for the obvious reasons. I can't quite handle having actors play real people while they restage these crimes in the real location. Watching a movie version of the same thing is a little easier even if most of the time they are making up what went on, too, since the guilty and the dead won't be telling the story.<br /><br />But we did watch a crime documentary on TV after Richard's sister said an upcoming show was about a cousin of theirs. It was on Dateline or Deadline about an FBI guy who killed his wife. He said he did it in self-defense. We watched the interviews and even the FBI guy tell how his soon-to-be ex-wife attacked this FBI agent and he just had to kill her. <br /><br />The prosecution noticed he wasn't wearing his gun when he had lunch with his girlfriend at a burger joint right before he killed the wife with that gun. He strapped it on as he went into his house. Another forensics witness said the wife was on the floor when a few of the shots got her. <br /><br />There was a hung jury the first time the case went to trial. He was acquitted in the next trial. Richard's cousin was the dead wife. We did not expect the guy to get off. That's another reason I don't like non-fiction crime. I want the bad guy to go down for his crime. Maybe his story was true. Not if I had been on the jury.GBPoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12190573764848658894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-34766868551001396152015-12-01T12:39:41.466-05:002015-12-01T12:39:41.466-05:00So THAT is why Santa's cheeks are red.So THAT is why Santa's cheeks are red.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-75953523853750266532015-12-01T11:31:30.599-05:002015-12-01T11:31:30.599-05:00I do have firsthand knowledge, having worked as a ...I do have firsthand knowledge, having worked as a narrator in one of these types of shows: For Her Man -- a docudrama of cases in which women have done terrible things for the men in their life. In the episode I worked on, a woman who worked in a massage parlor that offered ... other services got fired. She lived with a guy who didn't contribute to the family income, and they were about to get evicted. He persuaded her to get revenge on her old company by robbing the place, thinking it would be an easy score because the owner would never call the cops. And as you can imagine, things didn't go as planned. Think guns, deaths, prison. <br /><br />It's interesting to think about cases like this because it helps understand the mindset that can prompt a person to do terrible things. I once talked with a friend about it--how you can get pushed to do things you might think you'd never do. Ask a friend on a normal day if he'd ever kill someone. Let's hope the answer would be no. But then tell him he's a single parent and his child gets sick and needs an operation but he can't afford the pre-pay deductible, and the guy realizes he could skim a little from work to make it happen, and he'll pay it back before anyone realizes. So he does. And then his kid needs another operation and another and more money is stolen and he's been unable to pay it back and suddenly he's a big-time embezzler. And someone finds out and threatens to tell, which will leave his sick child alone, thrust into foster care, at the mercy of who knows what. And suddenly this guy who could never kill anyone might indeed kill someone.<br /><br />That all said, I don't read any true crime and I don't watch much of it. It's fun reading about fictional crime. Real crime leaves me cold. Just yesterday I read an article about a guy who apparently was trying to break into a home by climbing down the chimney and got stuck. The homeowner didn't know he was there until he lit the fireplace and the burglar started calling for help. I wrote a story involving a scene similar to that, "Christmas Surprise." (It's available in my collection, Don't Get Mad, Get Even.) That story was fun. The real life story, not so much.Barb Goffmanhttp://www.barbgoffman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-89459293338486834002015-12-01T08:36:39.185-05:002015-12-01T08:36:39.185-05:00Sorry for torpedoing away your excuse, Leigh ;) . ...Sorry for torpedoing away your excuse, Leigh ;) . And maybe Barb will chime in with her first-hand knowledge.<br /><br />Thanks, Janice. And I believe Unsolved Mysteries is on in reruns, but I can’t remember what channel. I know I’ve seen while surfing the guide though.<br />Paul D. Markshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15466234708772287399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-50347575148330342952015-12-01T08:14:57.191-05:002015-12-01T08:14:57.191-05:00Very best of luck with Vortex.
I still miss Unsolv...Very best of luck with Vortex.<br />I still miss Unsolved Mysteries that gave me the plot for at least one noveljanice lawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-28094318578624873022015-12-01T01:10:30.032-05:002015-12-01T01:10:30.032-05:00>… the Murder Channel…
Too funny and too true,...><i>… the Murder Channel…</i><br /><br />Too funny and too true, Paul.<br /><br />I use the same excuse you do, especially with <i>48 Hours</i> and <i>Forensic Files</i>. Now you've striped away my excuse for ‘discovering’ new things, you know, sort of like watching <i>National Geographic</i> channel (recently purchased by Rupert Murdoch, whom some would cheerfully murder).<br /><br />><i>We want to understand—even as we are repelled by the idea.</i><br /><br />Exactly!<br /><br />And let’s not forget <a href="http://www.sleuthsayers.org/2015/11/getting-out-of-your-comfort-zone.html" rel="nofollow">Barb Goffman</a> who has first-hand experience in these things.Leigh Lundinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.com