tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post1495146475630983840..comments2024-03-19T03:21:49.937-04:00Comments on SleuthSayers: Calling All Literary Sluts (and Others)Leigh Lundinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-34374338339004093282015-01-27T00:43:20.603-05:002015-01-27T00:43:20.603-05:00Sorry i am late here. I will be at Bcon. I feel ...Sorry i am late here. I will be at Bcon. I feel my first duty is to try to get on a panel about ecology-reated fiction, because i will have a new novel out on that subject. If i can get in more than one, i would love to be on a SleuthSayers pile-up. Short and long fiction aso works for me, as does funny vs serious (lots of us write both).<br /><br />Oh good grief, i just remembered that the editor of a book i have a story coming out in is also hoping to arrange a panel. Ay yi yi...<br /><br />Alas i dont qualify fr the sluts panel, wth ony two published stores outside our field.Robert Loprestihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08844889305615182897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-75666370478080291042015-01-26T21:51:15.233-05:002015-01-26T21:51:15.233-05:00So do I, Fran. But I just don't think I'l...So do I, Fran. But I just don't think I'll be able to swing it this year.<br /><br />--DixonDixon Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11220791609338404147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-75545414837820734532015-01-26T17:51:45.017-05:002015-01-26T17:51:45.017-05:00Anonymous, I'm hoping there will be varied top...Anonymous, I'm hoping there will be varied topics dealing with both promotion and information. What you want in a talk is almost what I want when I write. If I can't make my readers laugh, I want to make them cry. I hardly ever try to evoke anger in others in person or in writing.Fran Rizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655783035179620991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-62389422515172657732015-01-26T17:47:59.477-05:002015-01-26T17:47:59.477-05:00Dixon, thanks for your suggestions. I'll pass ...Dixon, thanks for your suggestions. I'll pass those ideas for titles for the short story suggestion on to Melodie. I wish you were going to be there!Fran Rizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655783035179620991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-54523514261306311192015-01-26T17:32:05.505-05:002015-01-26T17:32:05.505-05:00A lot of panels focus either on promotion or infor...A lot of panels focus either on promotion or information. I don't care about promotion but I like knowledge. I also like talks that arouse my emotion specially humor but even sadness or anger. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-54900932903002780922015-01-26T17:20:18.927-05:002015-01-26T17:20:18.927-05:00Perhaps the final clause after that last comma in ...Perhaps the final clause after that last comma in number 4 should read: "by those who've taken the plunge."Dixon Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11220791609338404147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-91511297713419059872015-01-26T17:17:02.821-05:002015-01-26T17:17:02.821-05:00Fran, this is a great idea. And, though I don'...Fran, this is a great idea. And, though I don't expect to make it to the con, I'd like to suggest a few names, which perhaps you'll like -- or just get a kick out of:<br /><br />1) Those Nuts in Your Shorts: The nuts and bolts of writing successful short stories. <br /><br />2) There's Money in Your Shorts: Writing short stories that sell.<br /><br />3) Gathering Your Shorts: How to get your anthology published.<br /><br />4) Get Out of Your Shorts: How to make the move from short story writer to published novelist, by those who've made the transition.<br /><br />Hope one of these helps.<br />--DixonDixon Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11220791609338404147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-84415081788923103702015-01-26T15:05:22.656-05:002015-01-26T15:05:22.656-05:00Dale and Eve, we're leaning toward suggesting ...Dale and Eve, we're leaning toward suggesting at least two, hoping to get as many of us involved as possible. I'm penciling you two in for The Long and Short of It. Of course, we'll be back in touch and confirm everything before May.Fran Rizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655783035179620991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-46370913114962806842015-01-26T15:01:50.975-05:002015-01-26T15:01:50.975-05:00I haven't registered for the next Bouchercon, ...I haven't registered for the next Bouchercon, but I'd love to get in on a panel on short stories, etc. Keep me posted! Eve Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03015761600962360110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-57557915816516107322015-01-26T15:01:31.923-05:002015-01-26T15:01:31.923-05:00"The Long and the Short of it" ??"The Long and the Short of it" ??Dale Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10553503281187956955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-79104083048072889042015-01-26T14:59:08.442-05:002015-01-26T14:59:08.442-05:00Dale, I think since so many SleuthSayer writers sp...Dale, I think since so many SleuthSayer writers specialize in short stories, a panel of SSers on that topic would be great. Any ideas for a title?Fran Rizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655783035179620991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-84847812994412947142015-01-26T14:25:17.778-05:002015-01-26T14:25:17.778-05:00I hope to be at Bouchercon as well, though I haven...I hope to be at Bouchercon as well, though I haven't reserved yet. I think a SleuthSayers panel is a natural, but I would go for a wider topic. The Criminal Briefs panel (which I watched from the audience) focused on the art of the short story, which is a common bailiwick here. That worked then and likely would work every bit as well now. Dale Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10553503281187956955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-60748968000209866322015-01-26T14:11:49.242-05:002015-01-26T14:11:49.242-05:00John, I do recall that panel and it was a lot of f...John, I do recall that panel and it was a lot of fun. I also enjoyed the relaxed break-time conversations.Leigh Lundinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-75668429929729131352015-01-26T14:10:46.476-05:002015-01-26T14:10:46.476-05:00Anon, I’m not wholly comfortable with the word bec...Anon, I’m not wholly comfortable with the word because it’s been used to hurt and harm. But I recognize that Fran and Melodie have taken ownership of ‘slut’ and are playing with it, using it for their own end. That’s how words change meaning over time… and lose their power to hurt.<br /><br />And I agree with Fran– We mystery writers are very supportive of one another. As I’ve mentioned before, the majority of my favorite mystery writers are women, although if pressed, I couldn’t say why. It’s the writing that counts and nothing else.Leigh Lundinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-3340130106347387022015-01-26T13:55:25.933-05:002015-01-26T13:55:25.933-05:00Anonymous, I want to add that competition in the w...Anonymous, I want to add that competition in the world of writing doesn't seem connected to gender. We mystery writers, especially, tend to support one another, male and female. Since words are our tools, we sometimes, whether intentionally or not, create new meanings<br />through usage. Melodie and I are taking ownership of "literary slut," and I'm happy she thought of it.Fran Rizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655783035179620991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-3649774304981408462015-01-26T13:47:18.202-05:002015-01-26T13:47:18.202-05:00David, I'm delighted to count you in. I also ...David, I'm delighted to count you in. I also finished reading THE PURPLE ROBE and posted a review on Amazon. Please check it out!Fran Rizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655783035179620991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-16513386575347944372015-01-26T13:45:55.502-05:002015-01-26T13:45:55.502-05:00John, please email me if you have a topic idea or ...John, please email me if you have a topic idea or if you'd like to be recommended for Literary Sluts or for the Murder Down South, Y'all if we recommend that as well.Fran Rizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655783035179620991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-42534982596348462072015-01-26T13:45:55.094-05:002015-01-26T13:45:55.094-05:00John, please email me if you have a topic idea or ...John, please email me if you have a topic idea or if you'd like to be recommended for Literary Sluts or for the Murder Down South, Y'all if we recommend that as well.Fran Rizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655783035179620991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-26905868526147862922015-01-26T13:44:00.335-05:002015-01-26T13:44:00.335-05:00Anonymous,
First, if I offended you, I apologize. ...Anonymous,<br />First, if I offended you, I apologize. <br /><br />Many female writers throughout history wrote under male pseudonyms, and even as recently as Harry Potter, the manuscript was submitted with a non-gender-specific initials for first name. I've published feature articles in sports magazines using the first name "Frank." While I'm certain it's a rougher road for female scientists, there have been a few pebbles on the path for writers as well.<br /><br />The word "slut" has had many meanings through past centuries. Chaucer referred to the appearance of an untidy man as "sluttish." In Samuel Pepys's diary, on February 21, 1664, he states, "our little girl Susan is a most admirable slut . . . and deserves wages better." He wasn't speaking of her as a wayward woman but as a laundress. <br /><br />When Melodie posted her article about being a "literary slut," we understood she was using the word to refer to someone who spread her talents to more than one genre, and "talents" referred to creative writing. Several male writers classified themselves as one of us.<br /><br />Finally, many of us, especially Melodie and I, use humor, not as a weapon, but as an instrument in our workshop. Humor can be used to incite or simply to cast another light on a topic. We happen to like genre fiction--mystery, thriller, romance, fantasy, historical and sci fi--so much that we can't help delving into more than one genre.<br /><br /><br /><br />Fran Rizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655783035179620991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-54323958933098742452015-01-26T13:26:38.147-05:002015-01-26T13:26:38.147-05:00Melodie, I agree to shortening the title and also ...Melodie, I agree to shortening the title and also that we have men on the panel. Actually, I didn't know you're a marketing director, but I'm glad you are and that we'll be working on this proposal together.<br />Fran Rizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655783035179620991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-35167899043076677952015-01-26T13:24:59.159-05:002015-01-26T13:24:59.159-05:00Leigh, I certainly hope you are there!Leigh, I certainly hope you are there!Fran Rizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655783035179620991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-5975175267774456042015-01-26T10:15:35.734-05:002015-01-26T10:15:35.734-05:00Count me in, please.Count me in, please.David Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13005457506363262838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-81545438595683611482015-01-26T09:31:28.243-05:002015-01-26T09:31:28.243-05:00Fran, I think the idea of a SleuthSayers panel at ...Fran, I think the idea of a SleuthSayers panel at Bouchercon is great--I plan to be there this year, and would love to participate. <br /><br />We did a Criminal Brief panel at the Baltimore B'con a few years ago, and had a great time. Remember that one, Leigh?John Floydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001712728130488485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-41454788558528449272015-01-26T09:00:52.280-05:002015-01-26T09:00:52.280-05:00This really shows me how different writing is as a...This really shows me how different writing is as a profession from the sciences. (Not that you asked.) I am a woman scientist and we are constantly fighting NOT to be thought of as sluts of any kind, especially not in a supposedly joking manner (which is what our male colleagues say, is that they are just joking around). If you read the way Watson and Crick talk about Rosalind Franklin in "The Double Helix" you will see what I mean -- and things have NOT changed since then. Some of our younger woman scientists have tried to adopt this playful language, which embeds a sort of alternative approach to being a woman in science the way that they do it, and it's destroyed their careers. So the idea that women are so well-established in the writing profession that you all can afford to use this kind of language is just mind-blowing to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-4303012859094395382015-01-26T08:27:59.594-05:002015-01-26T08:27:59.594-05:00Grin - great, Fran! Being a marketing director, I...Grin - great, Fran! Being a marketing director, I would shorten the copy of the title to: Literary Sluts: Writing in more than One Genre<br />And I would LOVE to get a man on that panel too!<br />Fran, just imagine what we could wear...Melodie Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870938103759179132noreply@blogger.com