tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post3130353548881433241..comments2024-03-19T05:28:00.356-04:00Comments on SleuthSayers: Florida News (Pathos and Bathos)Leigh Lundinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-55521164758839057952012-03-20T01:07:29.594-04:002012-03-20T01:07:29.594-04:00Late Monday evening, 19 March, we learned that 3 f...Late Monday evening, 19 March, we learned that 3 federal agencies is investigating the shooting.<br /><br />We also learned a few days earlier that Trayvon's suspension was due to tardiness and not any other kind of discipline problem.Leigh Lundinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-68340038650421229022012-03-16T23:59:56.860-04:002012-03-16T23:59:56.860-04:00About 10:45p, police finally released the recordin...About 10:45p, police finally released the recordings, one from Zimmerman and eight from witnesses. Apparently some of the confusion is that police believe the man heard screaming is George Zimmerman while witnesses believe the screaming person is Trayvon Martin.<br><br><a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/osvideo-george-zimmerman-911-call-trayvon-martin-20120316_2,0,3128379.premiumvideo" rel="nofollow">Zimmerman's call</a>: "Real suspicious guy. … Looks like he's up to no good, on drugs or something. Just staring, walking around staring at the houses. … Now he's coming toward me… hands in his waistband. … Something's wrong with him, yup. He's coming to check me out. He's got something in his hands. These assholes always get away. He's down for it. He's heading toward the back entrance." And moments later Zimmerman says "He ran."<br><br>In other words, Zimmerman himself reports that Martin is running away from him. Police 911 clearly tells Zimmerman not to follow him, but Zimmerman didn't heed the advice.<br> <br> Zimmerman seems simultaneously scared and running on adrenalin. However, it's difficult to see this case as anything other than an excited execution.<br><br>One problem is the huge gap between Zimmerman's perception he was seeing a miscreant versus the reality that an innocent kid was on the way back from the store. One of the things we learned today was that prosecutors told the police they don't have enough to prosecute. That seems a bit hard to fathom.Leigh Lundinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-67232978901143229732012-03-16T21:35:25.422-04:002012-03-16T21:35:25.422-04:00Today, Friday 16 March, the state attorney's o...Today, Friday 16 March, the state attorney's offices spent the day saying the 911 tapes will be released in half an hour… all day long, according to WFTV channel 9. The possibility remains the tapes could be released tonight or tomorrow.<br /><br />Robert Zimmerman told the Orlando Sentinel the 911 recordings will exonerate his son and 'prove' his son did not confront Martin. One source says Zimmerman left his vehicle and that Martin attacked him.<br /><br />Two witnesses told WKMG channel 6 they attempted to telephone 911 to say they heard Trayvon Martin screaming for help. In their view, both women believe javascript:void(0)George Zimmerman has no basis for self defense.<br /><br />Meanwhile, George Zimmerman quietly moved out of his residence to an unknown location.Leigh Lundinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-66074784518007508212012-03-15T01:14:14.280-04:002012-03-15T01:14:14.280-04:00The news reported today, Wednesday 14 March, that ...The news reported today, Wednesday 14 March, that the decision whether to prosecute was being considered in the George Zimmerman case. According to the National Sheriffs' Association, Zimmerman broke more rules than I delineated above. Meanwhile, the <i>Orlando Sentinel</i> published <a href="http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-14/news/os-trayvon-martin-beth-kassab-031512-20120314_1_orlando-police-block-captains-zimmerman" rel="nofollow">this opinion piece</a>.<br>Leigh Lundinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-2693586317246878542012-03-12T06:11:36.208-04:002012-03-12T06:11:36.208-04:00Dixon, my area has Watch signs, but I've never...Dixon, my area has Watch signs, but I've never heard a peep out of them, maybe a good thing.<br /><br />ABA, that's "capital" PUNishment.Leigh Lundinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-2959588344660010202012-03-12T02:50:38.892-04:002012-03-12T02:50:38.892-04:00Jee wiz, neighborhood watch! I know they can be u...Jee wiz, neighborhood watch! I know they can be useful. (And, out here, they’re expressly forbidden to carry.) Yet, in my neighborhood, the old lady who’s the leader used to fire off these flyers that are just nutty. In the last one, she told everyone who the Neighborhood Watch thought they should vote for in local, state, and even the presidential election! Haven’t seen another flyer since then, I’m glad to say. lolDixon Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11220791609338404147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-61110644911542185262012-03-11T23:45:32.470-04:002012-03-11T23:45:32.470-04:00On a lighter note: Asinine Mule must have been the...On a lighter note: Asinine Mule must have been the butt of many a joke once the police got to the bottom of the case.A Broad Abroadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-79392783871781675262012-03-11T18:20:58.952-04:002012-03-11T18:20:58.952-04:00Louis, I agree. Almost everyone seems confused why...Louis, I agree. Almost everyone seems confused why an arrest hasn't been made. We're striving to be fair with a paucity of available information, but it seems clear the kid was unarmed and innocent of wrongdoing while his killer appears to have violated all sorts of protocols. You don't get to walk when something like this happens.<br /><br />Jeff, I didn't read anywhere close to 100% of the comments, but a thorough sampling seemed that most on that site were honestly struggling to come up with answers. I noted even George Zimmerman's friend seemed perplexed by the events and the ho-hum aftermath.Leigh Lundinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-93966864180844492012-03-11T17:53:48.713-04:002012-03-11T17:53:48.713-04:00Thanks for mentioning defensivecarry.com
There...Thanks for mentioning defensivecarry.com<br /><br />There's no excuse I can see to justify the shooting or not taking him into custody. Our discussion didn't get why the report was blacked out and the 911 tapes not released. Gambler99 is a friend of the shooter but he also wonders whats going on. I don't get why the DA says he won't take the case to court until the sheriff makes the arrest and the police say they won't arrest until the DA indicts. Makes me wonder if the guy has more friends than we know about.<br /><br />Anyway thanks for a fair mention.Jeffhttp://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/137359-sanford-fl-teen-shot-chl-holder.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-32010887645268387092012-03-11T16:27:41.744-04:002012-03-11T16:27:41.744-04:00I started not to comment on the report about the g...I started not to comment on the report about the guy who shot the Black teen because when I read such stories, I get extremely angry and have to sit in my easy chair for about 30 minutes to cool down. It seems that in this so-called post-racial society (I’m not even sure what they means), it is still safe to kill a Black kid without fear of punishment. It doesn’t make any difference whether the shooter was a wannabe cop or the kid was a trouble maker, killing him was a crime that at least should have put the killer on trial for something. Was the kid armed? Or was it a case of a Black kid walking in the wrong neighborhood?Louis A. Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16563842429688123421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-66752049155245165492012-03-11T13:47:45.218-04:002012-03-11T13:47:45.218-04:00It does make one wonder, Janice.
A CWP gun-owners...It does make one wonder, Janice.<br /><br />A CWP gun-owners forum with a friend of Zimmerman's as a member took a reasonable approach trying to puzzle out what happened. The thinking seemed to run that the boy noticed he was being followed (stalked?) and took exception, and Zimmerman may have taken exception to the lad taking exception and it went downhill from there.Leigh Lundinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07921276795499571578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3119105822589181967.post-6199145786667890132012-03-11T08:14:24.645-04:002012-03-11T08:14:24.645-04:00That's a tragic story.
I can't help think...That's a tragic story.<br /><br />I can't help thinking that the obsession with gated communities and 'security' is often a cover for old fashioned racism.Janicenoreply@blogger.com